now at citi. >> high level at citi. jake siewert who was a chief counselor to tim geithner, secretary of treasury -- they were doing all kinds of battle with goldman sachs during the first term, especially after the financial crisis. jake is now the head of communications for goldman sachs. i mean, you -- >> and so, many of them have a connection to someone else who figures prominent in your book, robert rubin. >> yeah, robert rubin -- >> was clinton's treasury secretary. >> there's always been a symbiosis between wall street and washington to some degree. but i think the clinton era introduced a whole new level of magnitude to this. and bob rubin, who was the sort of storied head of goldman sachs for many years, coming to take the reins of treasury was really -- i mean, he was a real guru. and brought a lot of protÉges, larry summers being the biggest example, to town. tim geithner being another one. and yeah, and then, you know, the economy crashes, the banks crash. i mean, robert rubin gets a great deal of blame. i